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October 30, 2002
Defying doubters of 'West Wing'
By David Hiltbrand
Philadelphia Inquirer >
Mr. Speaker, my fellow Americans: The state of the series is sound - despite what you may have heard.
People have been piling on The West Wing lately, claiming that the NBC White House drama (9 p.m. Wednesdays) is losing viewers because the quality is slipping. Well, the ratings are down (an alarming 23 percent from a year ago), but it's not because the show has lost its mojo.
The West Wing, winner of three consecutive Emmys as TV's best drama, remains the most intelligent and engaging series in prime time. This ain't no lame duck, folks. But the reasons offered for Wing's stumble are canards. Let's examine them:
People are turned off by the show's liberal slant.
Bushwa. Yes, the program depicts the inner workings of a Democratic presidency. But from the first episode, Josiah Bartlet (Martin Sheen) has been anything but a radical ideologue. This son of New Hampshire is a cranky individualist in the Harry Truman vein.
You could make a case that his advisers - Josh Lyman (Brad Whitford), Toby Ziegler (Richard Schiff), and Sam Seaborn (Rob Lowe) - are left-leaning. But West Wing's creator and principal voice, the prolific Aaron Sorkin, is punctilious about presenting the other side of the argument.
All issues - from farm supports to ecology - are debated ad infinitum. Both sides get their at-bats. And Sorkin's conservative proxies are more articulate than Rush Limbaugh.
As Bartlet runs for a second term, his opponent is presented in a favorable light. Robert Ritchie, the Republican governor of Florida (played by James Brolin), may not be as bristlingly intelligent as the show's Latin-spouting incumbent, but he is cagey and charismatic. When they debate in tonight's episode, you can bet that Ritchie will leave a few lumps on the president's pointy cranium.
The show is running out of steam.
Balderdash. The writing on Wing is unparalleled - witty, bright, passionate and patriotic. Ask the cast members (with the possible exception of Lily Tomlin who plays the silly, pot-smoking, alpaca-farming job candidate Deborah Fiderer), and they'll tell you the scripts are an actor's dream. (On the other hand, there's nothing like an election year to make people sick of politics.)
The plotlines have been overshadowed by actual events.
Stuff and nonsense. Did people stop watching medical shows after the AIDS epidemic erupted? Repeat after me: There is absolutely no correlation between television and reality - unless you're Emeril Lagasse.
This isn't to say Wing is perfect. Presented with a golden opportunity, the show choked - big time. Last year, after the 9/11 attacks, NBC postponed the third-season opener because Sorkin, we were told, was working around the clock on a timely episode about terrorism. More than 25 million people tuned in, the biggest audience the series has ever had.
Unfortunately, Sorkin delivered a pretentious and didactic script (West Wing haters maintain he does that every week), in which the president and his staff delivered stuffy sermons on civil liberties to a group of schoolkids in the White House cafeteria. That crinkling noise you heard was the sound of America's eyes glazing over.
Another mistake is the attempt to put each member of the ensemble cast in the spotlight. Usually, this involves giving the characters some tedious semblance of a home life.
This strategy has reached its nadir with Toby trying to renew his marriage with congresswoman Andy Wyatt (Kathleen York). Trust us, Aaron: Nobody is interested in this curmudgeon's personal life.
The West Wing needs to adopt a Rose Garden strategy: Barricade everyone inside the confines of the White House and stay there.
These cavils aside, the series remains a uniquely compelling program. So why is viewership down? There are several factors:
It's endemic.
Most seasoned NBC series - Frasier and the recently canceled Providence, among them - are losing eyeballs. Only Friends remains frisky.
Competition.
Bartlet and his brainy crew are being filibustered by The Bachelor, Birds of Prey, and The Amazing Race.
Going over people's heads.
It's not for everyone. I love the show, and there are weeks I don't tune because I'm not up to the challenge of Sorkin's logorrhea.
But just because we're too lazy to properly appreciate this jewel doesn't mean the sparkle is gone. You want to knock a show for being off its game? How about The Sopranos? This season the Jersey boys have been staler than two-week-old bruschetta.
Posted by MorganG at 05:50 PM
Disloyalty oaths
Viewers are griping about two of TV's biggest hits this season
Tim Goodman
San Francisco Chronicle
These are tough times for two of television's best, most popular and critically acclaimed series.
Entering their fourth seasons, "The Sopranos" and "The West Wing" are coming under the kind of fan fire neither is accustomed to. In the case of "The West Wing," that is resulting in a loss of viewers.
But the issues for both go far deeper. As two of the brightest lights in TV -- surrounded by a plethora of creatively weak, stylistically simple competitors -- it's almost insulting for them to be questioned, to be doubted. After all, in the realm of smart, sophisticated television, there's not much else out there.
Still, anecdotal evidence such as fan sites and water cooler chit-chat bear out the truth: Fans of those shows are disappointed this season.
It's harder to draw a correlation between people tuning out and people complaining. This season has seen many established series lose viewers. There are also more and better dramas this year, and the audience shift that occurs during so-called "good" TV seasons is taking place. "The West Wing" is on a tough night (so too is "The Sopranos"), and the political drama, despite its popularity, has less of a die-hard audience than the mob diary.
Loyalty to "The Sopranos" borders on insane. Besides, if you're paying for it (and a lot of people are paying for HBO precisely because of "The Sopranos"), you're going to watch it.
Audience approval is a widely varying thing -- even in its most acclaimed years, people have been open and vocal about their "Sopranos" disappointment. And the inability to make everybody happy has to be factored in. But the question remains: These people currently carping about down years on both shows -- are they right?
Here's a nice dodge -- it's too early. Many series often suffer creative lulls, then roar back. It's a long season. Let's not pass too much judgment yet.
Nevertheless, critically, there's certainly merit to "The West Wing" gripes, while "The Sopranos" is clearly a victim of impossibly high expectations and some people who either don't understand or can't dismiss creator David Chase's storytelling eccentricities.
While Aaron Sorkin has done a stupendous job making a hit out of a series nobody -- at any network -- thought would work, "The West Wing" has always been an implausible high-wire act. First off, politics divides. Unless you're really great at the writing -- which Sorkin has been on most occasions -- somebody is going to feel their nose is being tweaked.
This season it's been abundantly clear that President Bartlet (Martin Sheen) is battling a Bush-like Republican for re-election. That story line is bothersome to Republican viewers who have already given Sorkin a pass on this show about a liberal Democrat president who's three sex scandals away from being Bill Clinton.
And in addition to bucking the odds with a politicized show, Sorkin has for years tempted fate with another TV no-no: being too smart. It's true. The American audience does not like to feel stupid, doesn't like to be talked down to or lectured or made to feel in any way inadequate. When viewers want smarts, they go to PBS. On network television, they demand first to be entertained. If you can do that intelligently, great. But going Ivy League only annoys people. Sorkin is at his worst when he takes his characters -- already cut considerable critical slack for all talking the same way -- and puts them on soap boxes.
Is "The West Wing" still exceptionally fine TV? Of course it is. It remains smart and appealing. Once Sorkin gets back in a groove, improving the writing and storytelling, the show will return to form. That doesn't mean viewers will return, however. There's a sell-by date for every series and even if "The West Wing" isn't there yet, the downside of being politically polarizing is already apparent and is unlikely to be turned back.
"The Sopranos" is an entirely different animal. The easiest explanation for its perceived downturn is ridiculously heightened expectations. But that's a case that can be made every season, every episode, for this show. Just as critics give Sorkin a free pass for the repetitive speaking tone of his characters, so too does Chase get a lighter reprimand for his odd, disjointed story arcs.
Yes, plot lines come and go. Chase has proven, however, that most are not forgotten and eventually resume. By now everyone should know that he tells stories at his leisure, with no definitive clock for the viewers to watch. It's often unclear how much time has elapsed between episodes, much less seasons.
Character motivation has always been suspect as well. Viewers don't like when Carmela, for example, isn't acting the way she'd normally act. Is the fault in Chase's execution, or are viewers too impatient, raised on strict, formulaic network storytelling devices? Maybe a little of both, but again, "The Sopranos" is not a good series to dissect on a weekly basis. It packs a far bigger wallop and makes more sense as a whole, when the season ends.
It's easy to say that critical appraisal of "The Sopranos" has delved into the absurd, with Chase getting too much credit for creating high art or some momentous cultural accomplishment, when, after all, it's a TV show. But it's also true that standard interpretations of what television has offered over the years don't apply here.
Yes, "The Sopranos" is brilliant, but it's also different. And sometimes viewers have been either unaware or unappreciative of that difference. For example -- and this is an argument made many times here -- the most important element of this series is what's not said. Network television does not believe in long pauses. It doesn't allow viewers to read into facial expressions for more than a second. Network television -- particularly "The West Wing," by the way -- tells you how to feel or how the character's feeling. Not so in "The Sopranos," which remains daringly, originally, quiet and often lingers on scenes two or three times longer than network shows.
Two other things about "The Sopranos" that, for many viewers, oddly dilute the impact: First, Chase is not strict about motivation, preferring to imbue the characters and the series with a sense of real-life randomness. A lot of viewers, on the other hand, like plot points and action to click like cylinders -- it's a learned response from network television.
Secondly, "The Sopranos" has always been funny, and Chase, who apparently has one quirky sense of humor, routinely tries to fit humor into the flow. But some fans are so obsessively serious about "The Sopranos" that they view jokes as an irritant, a flaw that makes particular episodes weak. Episode three this season, which was not only loaded with humor but skillfully used selfishness as an overarching theme, was loathed by fans.
There seems to be a rush to judgment on both "The West Wing" and "The Sopranos," which is disconcerting. On the other hand, nobody's trying to start a national dialogue about "Boston Public" or "Dinotopia" -- which puts everything into perspective.
Posted by MorganG at 05:47 PM
Executive Decision
By Paul Droesch
TVGuide.com
Aaron Sorkin hasn't had a good fall. Okay, he won another Best Drama Series Emmy in September (and, okay, it was for the third year in a row). But that was before the season started. Lately, it seems, it has been nothing but falling ratings and sniping critics. Last week, The New York Times's Caryn James even used TV's dreaded "s"-word — "shark" (as in jumping one) — in her sorrowful assessment of The West Wing's season thus far.
The opener certainly was silly (picaresque, but silly): It's hard to imagine top White House aides stranded by the side of a cornfield or going the wrong way on a train. And change the background music (and maybe the lighting) and the quirky heartland characters Toby, Josh and Donna kept encountering could have been on Twin Peaks.
On the plus side, Bartlet (Martin Sheen) has held it together, and the Qumari-assassination storyline is a more plausible test of presidential character than last season's overheated MS crisis. But oddball new secretary Debbie Fiderer is just too much of an oddball (though Lily Tomlin comes close at times to pulling it off). And Toby (Richard Schiff) has been such a downer it's no wonder that he's not allowed in the president's sight on days when Bartlet's blood pressure's up.
Sorkin's giving Toby a love life — his ex-wife, a liberal Democratic congresswoman played by Kathleen York, is back in the picture, if not completely back in his life — and that might prove to lighten him up a bit. But it's hard to imagine a sexy Toby (sexy Toby?) as a response to the surprisingly stiff competition that The West Wing has faced from ABC's The Bachelor this fall. (It's harder to imagine disgruntled West Wing fans switching to The Bachelor, but stranger things have happened.) Besides, it's not as though the West Wingers have taken chastity vows. Next week, for instance, Christian Slater signs on for a guest stint as a love interest for Donna (Janel Moloney).
But if Sorkin wanted to seriously sex things up, he would have written a romantic storyline for Rob Lowe, the show's resident hunk. After the first season, though, Lowe's Sam Seaborn has been noticeably celibate (although his former fiancée has turned up from time to time), and now the raise-deprived Lowe is on the way out, so Sorkin must write Sam out. That process could begin to unfold tonight.
Sam's heading out to Orange County, Calif., where he happens to be from, to persuade the campaign manager of a recently deceased Democratic congressional candidate to stop campaigning because it's an embarrassment to the national party. But the campaign manager (played by Joshua Malina, the nerdy Jeremy on Sorkin's Sports Night) is no dummy, and the physically dead candidate might not be so dead politically. Could there be a campaign in Sam's future?
There is a campaign in The West Wing's present, although not so you'd notice that much. True, a Bartlet loss would end the series. That won't happen, and Sorkin has wisely realized that there's no point in dramatizing something that's not dramatic. So he has taken sidelong glances at the race, using it mostly as a soapbox for political issues, and using Bartlet's opponent, the gravitas-challenged "Bobby" Ritchie (James Brolin), as a Republican punching bag.
Bartlet (Martin Sheen) gets the chance to take plenty of shots at him tonight, when the two square off in their only campaign debate. It's the episode's centerpiece, but it, too, is treated in a sidelong manner (though Sorkin definitely imparts its flavor). More directly treated is the way debates are "spinned" by the two sides, and this gives Sorkin not only another opportunity to be a policy wonk (the subject: trade with China), it opens up another guest spot for Hal Holbrook as the enjoyably cantankerous State Department veteran Albie Duncan, who's a wary Bartlet advocate.
Next week: the election. Bartlet's up in the polls but down in the ratings. It's far too early to call him a lame duck, but the presidency is an office that has term limits.
Posted by MorganG at 05:45 PM
October 24, 2002
Footballs won't fly on 'West Wing'
By Jeff Merron
ESPN.com
"The West Wing" has been having its problems lately, with ratings down 20 percent overall and even more among young viewers. Industry wags have a bunch of theories for the decline of NBC's White House drama: lackluster plots, no romantic storylines for Rob Lowe's character, competition from other networks, and so on.
President Bartlet (Martin Sheen), left, has a penchant for pigskin, but the rest of his staff appears anti-football. Caryn James, the eminent New York Times media critic, even proclaimed Wednesday that " 'The West Wing' jumped the shark."
She's wrong. All those theories are wrong. The ratings aren't down because of plotlines or because the show has jumped the shark. They're down because "The West Wing" has chewed the pigskin, and spit it out. In other words, the ratings are down because the show has been dissing football.
An anti-football White House wouldn't survive in the real world, and Pres. Josiah Bartlet's administration isn't long for the tube unless series creator Aaron Sorkin changes his football-bashing ways.
Sorkin should know better. It's OK to criticize certain aspects of football, as happened often enough on "Sports Night," which was also his baby. But not so often. And not with such broad strokes.
Make no mistake: Bartlet, who attended Notre Dame, likes football. But his staff has been using football as a punching bag. To wit:
In the Oct. 2, episode, Deputy Chief of Staff Josh Lyman and Donna Moss, his assistant, discussed problems that minor college sports have been having. What's the root of those problem?
Donna: It's not the fault of women's sports. It's the fault of football.Josh: It's the fault of football?
Donna: Yeah.
Josh: Football pays for all the other sports.
Donna: There are 53 players on an NFL team. The University of Colorado has 130, 85 of whom are on full scholarship. I'm all for backups and substitutes but can't the guy who's fourth on the depth chart at right outside linebacker also be the fourth on the depth chart at left outside linebacker? If a college football team cut back to 70 scholarships, they'd still be three deep at every position and have a fourth-string punter and place kicker. 15 scholarships ... that's a wrestling team!
Keep in mind that Donna (whether you agree with her on the above or not) has already proven she knows nothing about the college game, having once lost $100 in a college football pool by betting on Central Indiana State ("The Fighting Okies") against Notre Dame.
Josh Lyman (Bradley Whitford) couldn't win his Title IX debate with Donna. In the Oct. 9 episode Bartlet, like so many presidents before him (think Nixon, especially), watched football on TV.
This was a smart move. Sorkin gave us the poor man's version of picture-in-picture, and on a Wednesday night even a snippet of Redskins, Raiders or Saints action would have quickened the pulses of many viewers.
What did we get instead? According to Government Executive Magazine's "West Wing Watch," we got the Calgary Stampeders of the Canadian Football League. Maybe Doug Flutie, if he was watching, kept his eyes peeled for some old buddies. But thousands of viewers immediately switched to "NFL Films Presents: 1977 Buccaneers Yearbook" on ESPN Classic.
(TV junkies with a passion for minutia might have eventually figured out that Bartlet was probably interested in Stampeders long snapper and linebacker Michel Dupuis, who suffers, like Bartlet, from multiple sclerosis. But twitchy remote fingers have no time for such subtleties.)
C.J., Bartlet's press secretary, has also been making her anti-football views known. She notices that the President's watching football, and says, in that C.J. kind of way, "Is it OK that after every play someone requires medical attention?"
A real presidential press secretary would have been fired for making such a remark. The problem isn't that it's false. The problem is that it's anti-football. C.J. should have learned to keep her mouth shut about football after Bartlet made her go on "The Portland Trip," wear a Notre Dame hat, and sing all five verses of the Notre Dame fight song while Air Force One flew over South Bend.
Bartlet's coming up for re-election. He'll win, no doubt. But he could still lose the hearts and minds of even more viewers, unless his underlings get on the (foot)ball.
Posted by MorganG at 05:43 PM
October 23, 2002
Shark's Pearly Teeth Gnash Near 'The West Wing'
By CARYN JAMES
The New York Times
Maybe it happened when Lily Tomlin turned up as the ditzy secretary to the President of the United States. Maybe it happened when Toby Ziegler, the communications director, lectured the president — in Toby's increasingly pompous way — about how he has to stop trying to prove himself to his long-dead father. Maybe it happened over the summer when nobody was looking, but it happened: "The West Wing" jumped the shark.
An inspired phrase, "jump the shark" refers to the point at which a television series begins its downward slide. (The term comes from the moment in the aging "Happy Days" when Fonzie waterskied over a shark. Television viewers weigh in on those tragic leaps on the Web site www.jumptheshark.com and can even read a "Jump the Shark" book by the site's creator, Jon Hein, but neither form is as delicious as the concept itself.)
The words shark and "West Wing" shouldn't be turning up in the same sentence yet. But the first four episodes this fall have been contrived and dull — a startling tumble from the show's gripping, sophisticated heights. The change was abrupt. This summer, when Rob Lowe announced he was leaving the series, it seemed like a foolish move; now it looks prescient.
After three seasons any show's novelty begins to wear off, of course. And as news stories have indicated, the "West Wing" ratings have been hurt by competition from series that are younger, hipper and guaranteed not to make your head hurt, like "Birds of Prey," with its comic-book-inspired superheroines, and the matchmaking reality game "The Bachelor." (O.K., "The Bachelor" will give you a headache, but only if you actually try to connect it to reality.) But those are minor factors.
The real problem is that Aaron Sorkin, who created and still writes "The West Wing," has turned to desperate plot twists and preachier-than-ever dialogue this season. And the weak writing has been compounded by a trickier issue: as the show has tried to adapt to changes in the world around it, it has given us a fictional president who walks like a Clinton and talks like a Bush. The show's downward slide raises the question of the longevity of smart network series: do they have a shorter life span, when they get a chance to live at all?
Although the decline of "The West Wing" seems to have happened behind our backs, the seeds were there last season when Ms. Tomlin's character, Debbie Federer, first appeared. She is so flaky that she once ran an alpaca farm. This season she told the president she was high when she first met him, and made a satiric point on her background-check questionnaire that involved harming him (you know how the Secret Service loves a good joke). She is one step away from the wacky next-door neighbor on a sitcom.
This season, frantic scenes that seem intended to humanize the characters and get them out of their offices have only made them look silly. Toby (Richard Schiff) and Josh (Bradley Whitford), the assistant chief of staff, and Josh's assistant, Donna (Janel Moloney), were left behind when the presidential motorcade left a rally in the Midwest; they hitched rides, got on a train, and missed a plane home because they forgot they'd crossed a time zone. The next week the entire staff turned up at a Rock the Vote rally. Last week a flashback to the early days of the administration revealed that the press secretary, C. J. (Allison Janney), had a really bad perm.
Worst of all, this season's dialogue has taken its cue not from the best the series has offered, but from its worst episode, last year's misguided season opener that acknowledged the terror attacks by locking the staffers in the White House with a class of visiting students. That gave Mr. Sorkin an excuse to preach at viewers about terrorism and racial profiling, but what's his excuse now?
Toby has become the main offender. He is the voice and the conscience we are meant to respect for his uncompromising idealism, but Mr. Schiff's overwrought performance makes the character off-putting. When Senator Ritchie, the fictional President Bartlet's Republican opponent in the next election, announces that he is against needle exchange to prevent the spread of H.I.V., Toby sits at a staff meeting and in a hectoring tone tells his colleagues and the president, but mainly the television audience: "I'd like someone to ask Ritchie if he's aware that needle exchange costs $9,000 for every infection stopped. Treating someone with H.I.V. costs $200,000. I'd like someone to ask him that." In a litany of clunky writing he continues this harangue as the staff walks out of the meeting, until C. J. asks, "Is there any chance I'm going to get an opportunity to speak in this conversation?" Toby's repetitious speech isn't poetry; it's bombast and it's wearing. Letting C. J. realize that the scene is talky doesn't change that.
Martin Sheen, as President Bartlet, once had the role of the pure conscience. The character and Mr. Sheen's performance have grown far richer and more fascinating as Bartlet has displayed more flaws. He failed to tell the country he has multiple sclerosis. He ordered the assassination of the leader of Qumar, the fictional country that is the show's villain in the Middle East, and the repercussions have led to this season's most intriguing and underused plot. (Tonight, in a repeat from last season, C. J. is upset because the United States may lease an air base to Qumar, which has a lousy record on women's rights; the episode is a reminder that Mr. Sorkin is able to balance preachiness and drama.)
Now the president and the series are caught in a head-spinning identity crisis. Bartlet, who arrived as a Clintonlike Democrat, still has such liberal social ideals that he recently became indignant about the country's poor record on greenhouse emissions. Yet more and more his rhetoric echoes that of the Bush administration's war on terror.
On "The West Wing," two pipe bombs are set off at a university in Iowa — a fiction that effectively evokes reality without creating stiff parallels. In reaction, at a White House dinner dramatically lighted with candles, Bartlet delivers an eloquent speech that resonates with the language of real events and fears. "We did not seek nor did we provoke an assault on our freedom and our way of life; we did not expect nor did we invite a confrontation with evil," he says. (If any word is associated with the Bush administration's war on terror, it's "evil.") "The streets of heaven are too crowded with angels tonight. . . . This is a time for American heroes."
During the Clinton years, Bartlet functioned as an idealized version of the real president. For much of last season, he occupied an alternate universe, a contrast to the Bush White House. But Mr. Sorkin can't have it both ways. As the echoes of reality have become stronger on the show, its vision of Bartlet has become disorienting.
"The West Wing" is still one of best shows on television, but that's beside the point. It doesn't matter that a show that was once so sharp and realistic is better than a lame sitcom like "Yes, Dear" or a mediocrity like "Jag." Mr. Sorkin cultivated a smart, thoughtful audience. Now he can't get away with insulting his viewers' intelligence by offering the ditzy secretary, the preachy communications director and the Jeckyll/Hyde presidency.
Posted by MorganG at 05:41 PM
October 22, 2002
'West Wing' at Ratings Crossroads
By LYNN ELBER
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Three consecutive best-drama Emmys. A prestigious Peabody Award. One of TV's most affluent audiences. All that, and "The West Wing" still must account for losing viewers to "The Bachelor."
In the bottom-line world of television, series that deliver a young crowd are the fondest desire of advertisers and networks — and ABC's dating game is among the new competitors sapping youthful strength from "The West Wing" on NBC.It's not a national crisis that people are being lured away from a finely crafted White House drama by the antics of marriage-hungry singles, although the reverse might gladden a concerned citizenry.
It may not even be a crucial problem for "The West Wing," which is a stronger candidate than early ratings returns indicate.
Granted, any audience shrinkage comes at a difficult time for the show's producers and studio. Warner Bros. Television and NBC will begin hard bargaining over a new contract early next year and diminished ratings would hurt Warner's cause.
The studio now gets about $2 million per episode from NBC, according to an executive familiar with the contract who spoke on condition of anonymity. Warner may seek up to $8 million per episode next season.
There's more than money at stake for "The West Wing" creator Aaron Sorkin and his fellow executive producers, including John Wells (whose other NBC credits include "ER" and "Third Watch").
After being emotionally knocked off balance by the Sept. 11 terrorism attacks, Sorkin feels he has regained the perspective needed to craft a drama that examines political machinations and partisan clashes.
"When I came back at the beginning of this year ... I was suddenly comfortable in my chair. The show was a lot of fun to write and was being written with a certain spirit and energy," Sorkin said. "And so we're back."
"Creatively, we're off to the strongest start we've ever been," added Wells.
"The West Wing" has carefully etched a campaign between the liberal President Bartlet (Martin Sheen) and a conservative Republican nominee (played by James Brolin), which culminates in their debate Wednesday, Oct. 30. Election results roll in on the Nov. 6 episode.
There is tension as usual on the international front, with Bartlet facing the increasingly dangerous aftermath of the covert U.S. assassination of a Middle East figure linked to terrorism.
Hints of how Rob Lowe may be eased out of his role as the deputy communications director (Lowe had sought a pay boost) have been strategically placed: Is Sam Seaborn ready to make his own stand as a candidate?
And, as always, the Sorkin-written dialogue is furiously fast and witty.
"You on your date?" Josh Lyman (Bradley Whitford) asks in a telephone call to ex-flame Amy (Mary-Louise Parker), then cautions: "You probably don't want to let him know it's me on the phone. It's too intimidating. It's like going out with Cher, and Sonny calls."
Not everyone has remained a fan. In its fourth year, the series is down 26 percent in total viewers and 31 percent among viewers 18 to 49 compared to the same period last year, according to Nielsen ratings.
The networks' avid quest for presumably free-spending young adults in the 9 p.m. EST Wednesday time slot is one reason. Other choices besides "The Bachelor" include Fox's cop drama "Fastlane" and the WB's superhero saga "Birds of Prey."
But the numbers may be a misleading assessment of the NBC show's durability and its value to the network.
Current ratings for "The West Wing" are consistent with its performance at the end of last season. It drew 17 million total viewers for the first month of this season compared to 16.7 million for May 2002.
The drama was watched by approximately 7.7 million viewers age 18 to 49 last May, compared to 7.5 million for the first four weeks of the new season.
While young viewership is down, the series continues to reign among another sought-after demographic: the crowd making $75,000 or more, including young adults in that income bracket.
Consider whether "that core group of people who are really committed to the show and who the advertisers covet" are deserting, Sorkin said, then supplied an answer: "They're not."
The fall slump likely is due in part to the lack of a previous season cliffhanger, such as the fall 2000 follow to an assassination attempt on the president.
The drama also has focused on stories with long arcs, like the election, meaning a delayed dramatic payoff for viewers. Sorkin and Wells won't apologize for complex plots that demand patience.
"There are lots of places to go on the dial where everything gets wrapped up in 42-and-a-half minutes," said Wells. "That was never the intent of the show. ... this is a long-term examination of an administration."
The drama remains a mainstay of NBC's dominant Wednesday schedule that includes "Law & Order." Keeping the night intact remains even more vital if "Friends" indeed wraps up this season, weakening another key NBC night, Thursday.
"It's still huge," industry analyst Stacey Lynn Koerner said of "The West Wing," despite its drop in younger viewers. "It's well-rated, well-respected and winning Emmys. We're not talking about a property any network is going to lose."
The business-savvy Wells understands the posturing that proceeds big series negotiations (the Warner-NBC pact for "ER" ended up costing the network a record $13 million per episode). But he and Sorkin insist they're genuinely content with their show's performance.
"We're happy, I gotta say, for the audience we have," Sorkin said. "I wrote 'Sports Night' for two years and these aren't low ratings. This is great. This is Club Med."
Posted by MorganG at 03:00 PM
October 21, 2002
Trouble in 'The West Wing'
By BILL CARTER
The New York Times
Just a month ago, Aaron Sorkin, the man responsible for creating and writing the hit NBC series "The West Wing," walked out of a theater in Los Angeles gripping his third consecutive Emmy award for best drama. He had every reason to believe he could head right over to NBC, brandish the latest award and, using the leverage that every producer of a hit show up for renegotiation has, tell the network to pay up.
But in one of the more intriguing subplots of the television season, circumstances have changed suddenly and unexpectedly for "The West Wing" and Mr. Sorkin. NBC, which must strike a new deal if it wants to retain the prestigious political drama next season, is, at least for the moment, sitting on its wallet.
The network has its reasons. The ratings for this season's early episodes have fallen, and the young adult viewers that NBC prizes (women in particular) have defected in big numbers. Critics, and even some fans of the show, are saying that the season's plots are not compelling. Some network executives are disappointed in the way one of the show's stars, Rob Lowe, has been used. And there may even be some lingering bad memories from the negotiation for another show, "ER," which involved the same two parties: NBC and Warner Brothers.
All of this backstory has made the build-up to the formal negotiations as intensely political and fractious as anything seen in the show's fictional White House.
Warner Brothers currently receives a fee of just under $4 million an episode for "West Wing," according to an executive with knowledge of the contract. Despite the recent ratings dip, it is pushing for a huge fee increase, to as much as $10 million an episode, for a "West Wing" renewal. NBC is sending out messages that it would balk at $6 million.
The "West Wing" side still believes that it holds the cards in the negotiations. The show still attracts an affluent audience and enhances NBC's entire Wednesday night line-up. And, the show's executives say, NBC may have difficulty filling the hole, particularly when it is losing another of its top-rated shows.
"Does NBC want to have to replace `West Wing' the same year it is going to have to replace `Friends?' " asked John Wells, one of the "West Wing" executive producers. "I'm pretty sure they don't."
Despite persistent rumors that "Friends," television's biggest comedy, might still return for a new season, Mr. Wells said, "I really don't think that's going to happen." Warner Brothers, as it happens, also owns "Friends." NBC, at least for now, seems to be shrugging off any halo effect that "West Wing" might be having on its Wednesday night, and is not flinching from the prospect of staring down a schedule without those two shows if it means an eye-popping savings on its bottom line.
But Warner Brothers thinks it has one other trump card: interest from other networks to provide leverage on NBC. So far, though, executives from the other networks seem content to remain on the sidelines.
Mr. Wells, who has been through this all before when he was executive producer of "ER," warned that "all kinds of posturing goes on in these things, and we won't know what people really think until we get into the formal negotiations."
Those do not begin until Feb. 1, when NBC will be granted an exclusive month in which to make a bid for future episodes of the show. The formal negotiating period, however, does not preclude the two sides, which have been talking about a new deal for a long time, from concluding an agreement beforehand.
Most of the principals declined to make on-the-record comments. But several did outline their positions in interviews last week, and the picture that is forming is one of a growing, and potentially unpleasant, impasse.
That is not good news for Mr. Sorkin and the show's other profit participants. "It's like you come all ready to the World Series of poker," he said, "and the show is suddenly like your little kid that you're standing in front of trying to protect. You have to tell him: `Kid, they're going to start calling you names.' "
The first name being thrown around right now is ratings-bleeder. The total viewership for the first four episodes of "The West Wing" this season is down almost 20 percent, and 30 percent of its young female viewers have gone elsewhere.
A phalanx of new competition in its time period, all aimed at younger viewers, has hurt "The West Wing." But numerous television industry executives, as well as Mr. Sorkin, noted the odd circumstance that Warner Brothers, or a sister production unit, is supplying three of the shows taking younger viewers from "The West Wing"' — ABC's "The Bachelor," WB's "Birds of Prey" and Fox's "Fast Lane." Warner Brothers is a unit of AOL Time Warner.
Though Warner Brothers is a production studio and does not control a network's program schedule, it is certainly unusual for a show to be damaged by this many products from its own company. (Networks have in many cases given studios scheduling consideration and not placed sister shows against one another, usually when the studio has other hit shows at the network.)
In addition, as often happens when a hit show displays some sudden vulnerability, the notion that the show itself is at least partly to blame is now being widely discussed. That point is passionately disputed by the show's creative team. Mr. Sorkin said, "I feel like the show is more fun that it has ever been." Mr. Wells said, "I've seen some of the upcoming episodes, and I really feel we're doing some of our best work ever."
Jeff Zucker, the president of NBC Entertainment and the man in the middle of the negotiations, said, "Obviously `The West Wing's' performance is not what it was a year ago, but it still remains the best show on television."
Some NBC executives have been less than happy with some of the ways Mr. Lowe has been used, thinking he has the kind of sex appeal that might keep more young women viewers loyal. Mr. Lowe has said he wants to leave, and his status on the show beyond this season remains up in the air.
Mr. Sorkin said: "We too love Rob. My fingers are crossed that he'll stay." As for the need for a sexier story line for Mr. Lowe, he said, "I've given it serious thought."
The talks between Warner Brothers and NBC are already complicated by the history from the "ER" negotiations, which wound up costing NBC a record $13 million an episode. A big difference, though, is that "ER" had retained its overpowering young-adult ratings for four years (and still does.) Mr. Wells noted that NBC had every opportunity to conclude a deal earlier that would have saved it a lot of money.
The same thing could have happened with "The West Wing," although this time NBC seems to have benefited from waiting.
According to several accounts from both sides, an earlier resolution was discussed, but no firm offers were made. One apparent impediment was the status of Mr. Sorkin himself, the show's creative voice, and the source of its defining, theater-quality dialogue. In April 2001, Mr. Sorkin was arrested for drug possession. That became either reason or excuse for NBC to back away.
But until the last four weeks, there seemed no doubt NBC would eventually do whatever it could to keep the show. The network had previously paraded the program to advertisers, boasting that it contained the most desirable audience in television with the highest percentage of wealthy and well-educated viewers.
"We're still getting more households with more than $75,000 in income than any other show in television," Mr. Wells said. Like many of the other executives involved, he said he expected that after all the posturing ends, NBC will step up and pay what it takes to keep the show.
"I'd be really saddened if they didn't," he remarked, adding, "That said, at the end of the day, it's a business."
Posted by MorganG at 05:39 PM
October 18, 2002
‘West Wing’ dialogue is too racy
By D.L. Stewart
Dayton Daily News
No matter how many Emmys it wins, I just can’t understand The West Wing.
I don’t mean to sound disloyal. Half the cast, after all, is from Dayton, and if we don’t support them, eventually North Carolina will claim they were born there and it will put Martin Sheen’s picture on its license plates.
Nor do I want to appear ungrateful. My wife and I had a chance to visit the set when cast members were taping the program a few years ago, and all the stars were as gracious to us as they could possibly be.
And I certainly hope this won’t upset anybody’s parents. The fathers of Rob Lowe and Allison Janney still live here and are acquaintances of ours, although they probably would not want to be identified as friends of mine.
But, in spite of all those connections, I still can’t understand The West Wing.
I’m not saying the story lines are too complicated for me to follow. I’m not questioning all the awards the program receives, either.
What I’m saying is that I can’t understand The West Wing.
Literally.
Every Wednesday at 9 p.m. my wife and I sit down in front of the television to watch the show. And every Wednesday by 9:10 we’re looking at each other and asking, “What’d they say?”
Just about the only word we consistently can make out is “yeah.” Which, fortunately, constitutes about 50 percent of the script. I’ve heard rap songs that were easier for me to understand.
I’ll be the first to admit that my hearing is not as good as it once was. So when The West Wing comes on, I turn up the volume until the bar at the bottom of the screen is all the way to the right. But it doesn’t help. I still can’t guess what they’re saying.
Besides, it’s not just me. My wife has trouble figuring out what the characters are saying, too. And she can hear me twist the top off a bottle of Bud Light from three rooms away.
My wife thought maybe it was because the actors aren’t always facing the cameras when they deliver their dialogue. So, during a commercial one week, I switched from The West Wing to a baseball game. Not only could I understand the play-by-play announcer, who was never on camera, I could make out what the hot dog vendors in the bleachers were saying.
Another thought I had was that maybe the speakers in our television are going bad. But we have five sets in our house and The West Wing dialogue is unintelligible on all of them.
The biggest problem, I think, is the speed of the dialogue. The program’s creators apparently believe the show will have a more authentic feel if the lines are delivered at twice the speed of sound. In fact, I have an acquaintance who says all government workers talk that fast. I don’t know if that's true. One of my sons is a government worker in Washington, D.C., and I can understand him. Or, at least, as much as I ever could.
All I can guess is that the producers have intentionally made The West Wing’s dialogue impossible for my wife and me to follow due to the fear shared by all network programs that someone over the age of 30 might tune in.
So it could be that the only solution for us will be to turn on the closed captioning.
As soon as we finish our speed-reading class.
Posted by MorganG at 05:37 PM
...But He Plays One on TV: Ron Silver to Guest-Host "Crossfire"
Washington Post
AOL Time Warner-owned CNN has asked Ron Silver, who plays a presidential election strategist on "The West Wing," produced by AOL Time Warner-owned Warner Bros., to guest-host "Crossfire" tonight.
Silver, a political activist and one of the founders of the Creative Coalition, will do battle with Bow Tie Boy on the Right.
Poor Bow Tie Boy.
Silver's filling in for real-life presidential election strategists James Carville and Paul Begala, neither of whom could make tonight's live show, said senior executive producer Sam Feist.
Feist insisted that the whole AOL Time Warner you-scratch-my-back-I'll- scratch-yours thing never entered into the conversation when he was deciding to ask Silver to guest.
"It never was a factor," Feist told The TV Column. "He has done 'Crossfire' plenty of times in the past. . . . We love having him on" as guest host.
Actually, the last time Silver was on "Crossfire," according to CNN, was way back in 1992 when the show was debating the merits of Vice President Quayle's attack on the fictitious unmarried woman Murphy Brown, about the fictitious baby she fictitiously conceived in the course of the CBS scripted fiction sitcom "Murphy Brown."
But the "Crossfire" discussion that night quickly devolved into a skirmish between Silver and Charlton Heston, repping the right, over whether Heston should have played Michelangelo in the 1965 film "The Agony and the Ecstasy," since the artist was gay:
Silver: Mr. Heston had a very distinguished career and still does. He starred in a movie called "Michelangelo." Now, I don't know, Chuck, you can tell me. Were you gay in that movie? Because Michelangelo was a gay person. He was serving gay popes, Julius. There was a lot of gay artists in the Renaissance --
Heston: It seems a curious point to be raising in our current debate, Ron, but I --
Silver: Well, Pat Buchanan raises the debate.
Heston: . . . I've studied Michelangelo and I perhaps know more about his life than most people do. The least important thing in his whole life was his sexual orientation. He had no relations with either men or women except on two separate occasions . . . The only thing in the world he cared about was carving marble.
We can only hope that tonight's "Crossfire" is as entertaining.
Asked if "Crossfire" has had any other celebrity guest hosts since it was revamped in April, Feist cited Dee Dee Myers and Ann Coulter. Yes, in Washington, D.C., Myers and Coulter are considered celebrities. Sigh.
Actually, when we later mentioned Feist's comment in a conversation with CNN's Washington publicist, she got back with us to clarify that Feist had thought we'd asked him about guest hosts, not celebrity guest hosts, and that he certainly didn't think that Dee Dee Myers was a celebrity.
On the other hand, the rep noted that when she moved to Washington recently, she had lunch with a bunch of youngish women who pronounced Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld handsome. So there you go.
Posted by MorganG at 03:48 PM
October 14, 2002
EHS Grad's Work Yields Emmys
By STEVE SMITH
The El Dorado Times>
Alex Graves still remembers back to when he was 11 years old and was making his own movies with a Super 8 camera.
So does his dad, Bill; for about a year and a half, he remarked, there was a space vehicle parked in his garage, making it unuseable for parking his own car while his son filmed his young colleagues acting out science fiction fantasies.
But even back then, Bill Graves said, his son knew what he was doing; after filming had been completed, he related, Alex would scratch the film to make it appear the light sabers in those movies really were firing light.
But what Alex Graves, a 1983 graduate of El Dorado High School, is now involved in comes much closer to earth than what was taking place in those space movies of more than 20 years ago.
He is now director and co-executive producer for "The West Wing," the television series which has captivated the nation's television audiences as it takes viewers inside the lives of staffers in the west wing of the White House.
This year "The West Wing" came away with another armload of Emmy awards, including outstanding drama series and outstanding lead actress, supporting actor and supporting actress in a drama series.
For his own part Graves received an Emmy nomination for outstanding directing for a drama series.
It was the "Posse Comitatus" episode which earned him that honor.
"I did dream about it," said Graves (who now lives in Santa Monica, Calif., with his wife Sarah and 3-year-old son Ben) about the success he has enjoyed with "The West Wing."
While "I certainly never knew it would happen," he remarked, "I hoped it would, and I worked really hard to make it happen."
Even with the accolades the show has received there are other facets of working with "West Wing" which Graves said he has also found rewarding.
The show came into being, he remarked, with the "good intentions" of creator and executive producer Aaron Sorkin, who saw the potential of a television series which portrays people who perform public service while serving in the White House west wing.
"He really wanted something which was interesting, educational and entertaining," he said - and he found all those elements in the White House.
Now, Graves said, it is somewhat of a juggling act to keep all three of those balls going at the same time.
What he, the actors and everyone else involved in "The West Wing" is doing, he remarked, is trying to make sure they are creating a show viewers will understand and care about - all the while not forgetting to entertain people.
"It's just a very great creative place to work," Graves said of "The West Wing," adding because current events tie the show to what is going on out in the real world "we work hard to try to communicate something positive and try not to do something which is destructive."
From the "very beginning," Graves said, "The West Wing" has had a "universally positive" reaction from the halls of government in Washington D.C.
It has been "heavily researched" with regard to past administrations, he noted, and even "deals a little bit" with the current Bush administration
"We definitely have a really strong fan base" in the nation's capital, Graves remarked, alson noting four times a year "The West Wing" goes back to Washington D.C. for location work.
"We're always warmly received," he said, adding "the bottom line is we get it right enough most of the time" that government officials have been unanimous in their willingness to cooperate.
Those people, he said, "sincerely appreciate the fact we are portraying them realistically and generally fairly."
In fact, he commented, "I've had as much help from the Bush White House" as he received from the Clinton administration.
And, he added, getting permission from such agencies as the Defense Department and the National Park Service to film at such locales as an Air Force Base, Arlington National Cemetery and the Jefferson Memorial has also gone off without a hitch.
Back in Hollywood, Graves said, "we have a set which encapsulates basically one and a half floors of the West Wing."
He said it gives the cast and filming crew the opportunity to portray the first floor of the actual White House west wing (including the Oval Office), as well as the White House basement (which also provides offices for staff people) and the upstairs of the residence, in which the president's bedroom is located.
For him, Graves said, a typical day might start off with play time with his son and coffee with his wife before he heads off to the set for a day filled with rehearsals and shooting.
During the day there are also such other tasks to be attended to as casting actors for either the current episode or one which is coming up.
Hopefully, he said, everything will finally get wrapped up about 8 or 9 p.m. - but even after he gets home he might find himself reading a script for an upcoming episode.
When he is not producing or directing, he added, his duties as co-executive producer involve overseeing all the episodes of the show.
"A lot goes into editing the episodes and how they are put together," he remarked.
"The cast is terrific; they're a really great, very smart and talented group of ensemble actors," Graves said of the actors in "The West Wing."
Martin Sheen (now known to millions of television views as President Josiah "Jed" Bartlet) was already making his mark in the film industry when Graves was in his high school and college years.
Still, he said, he has always felt at ease around Sheen.
"He's a wonderful, great guy" and "very easy" to work with, he remarked.
As press secretary Claudia Jean ("C.J.") Cregg, Graves said, Allison Janney has been "one of the best" role players he has ever seen.
Bill Graves said he is one of the regular viewers of "The West Wing."
To him, he remarked, "it has a strong story line, and the White House angle is certainly a good one."
While he does not always agree with the political outlook of the characters in the show, he remarked, that is something he admitted is at the discretion of the writers.
"He's worked hard to take advantage of his talent," Bill Graves said his pride in his son's success.
"He had an inborn motivation to do this."
Michele Banks recalled Alex Graves' "very active" participation in her productions when she was in charge of the drama department at EHS.
And, she continued, when he came back to El Dorado for two weeks in 1991 to do his first film, "Crude Oasis," she believed she was seeing "a young man who had vision and determination to succeed in a very difficult job choice.
In addition to Graves' creativity, drive and commitment, Banks said, he also had the all-important support of his family.
Graves said Banks and Bob Peterson, lead theater instructor at Butler County Community College, were his first major influences in his eventual career path.
Banks recalled starring as a "pretty austere, not-so-nice mother" in one of Graves' early El Dorado productions.
That, she said, was back in the days when Graves and his band of performers would use family homes, the former Graves Drug Store or anywhere they could find an environment or a stage to make a film.
"It's an extremely competitive industry," Alex Graves of his work, adding his advice to anyone who is interested in following the same career path he did is to "work hard and be persistent."
Posted by MorganG at 03:46 PM
October 11, 2002
What to make of a wounded 'West Wing'
cnn.com
HOLLYWOOD, California (Reuters) -- Ratings for "The West Wing" have tumbled this fall -- but that's not all bad news for the folks at NBC or the show's producer, Warner Bros. TV, Variety reports.
For NBC, the weakening of an anchor show is hardly a cause for celebration, particularly given the so-so performance of its new comedies and the potential exit of "Friends" this May.
Yet the timing of "West Wing's" decline is actually perfect for NBC, since the network is just a few months away from starting talks with Warner Bros. over extending the Emmy-winning White House drama's license fee agreement. Warner Bros. is a division of AOL Time Warner, as is CNN.
With "Wing" less of a powerhouse -- the series is down a full 33 percent in adults 18-49 vs. the same period a year ago, and 16 percent compared with its 2001-02 average -- the studio might have less leverage to hold up NBC for an outrageous per-episode sum.
And better the series fade now as it begins its fourth season than after NBC locks in for a few more years (as happened to ABC after the network renewed "The Drew Carey Show" for three years).
"Warner Bros. is not going to get as much money as they originally thought," said one high-level agent. "Whoever bids really has to decide how much future they think the show has."
Locked in on Wednesdays At the same time, while Warner Bros. isn't happy about the Nielsen trend for "West Wing," parent AOL Time Warner has reason to smile.
Five out of the six series screening Wednesdays at 9 p.m. -- "West Wing," ABC's "The Bachelor," Fox's "Fastlane," WB's "Birds of Prey" and UPN's "Twilight Zone" -- are produced or co-produced by some division of the AOL Time Warner-owned studio.
"Looking at the 18-34 demographic, it certainly is the most competitive time period on TV," said CBS scheduling chief Kelly Kahl. "In terms of reaching younger viewers it's emerged as the No. 1 battleground."
And, while the season's still early, most of the shows are doing well despite the intense competition: "Bachelor" is a phenomenon; "Birds of Prey" got off to a strong start this week; "Fastlane" was promising in its bow; and "Wing," while bruised, is still a powerhouse. Even "Twilight Zone" upticked this week.
Indeed, the Big Six controlled 63 percent of the adults 18-49 audience from 9-10 p.m. this Wednesday, up from 58 percent a year ago in the same slot.
Industry insiders call AOL Time Warner's Wednesday 9 p.m. grudge match "the price you pay for success."
"If someone had to compete with you, it might as well be yourself," a rival executive said.
'A 13 share is still a 13 share' As for the looming "West Wing" renegotiation battle, many still believe NBC will open its wallet wide when the time comes.
"It's a conundrum that's almost analogous to the entire broadcast sector," a rival network chieftain said. "Just as advertisers continue to pay for lesser ratings, for NBC, a 13 share is still a 13 share -- which can very easily become a 7 share (if they don't keep 'West Wing')."
Executives note that advertisers still pay a premium to air their spots during "The West Wing." As NBC loves to tell ad buyers each May, no other show on TV snags a bigger share of viewers with annual incomes over $75,000.
Still, although "West Wing's" lower ratings would conceivably benefit NBC execs at the negotiating table, most rivals agree the network would still rather pull higher numbers rather than save some coin.
"When push comes to shove, I'm sure they'd rather be in the position of fretting over how costly the deal would be to pick up a 20 share show," the rival network boss said.
Posted by MorganG at 03:42 PM
'West Wing' Slips in Ratings, Critics Not Worried
By Ben Berkowitz
Reuters
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Is President Bartlet's popularity slipping ahead of the election?
While America's real-life president seems to be doing just fine in the opinion polls ahead of mid-term congressional elections, NBC's political drama "The West Wing," whose fictional president Josiah Bartlet is up for re-election this season, is slipping in the ratings.
Although "West Wing" remains one of the highest-rated shows on television and just won an Emmy Award as best dramatic series for a third straight year, the show has seen a steady decline in viewers from one episode to the next since the debut of its fourth season last month.
Most notably, the show is losing adult viewers under age 50, the demographic most coveted by advertisers, in stiff Wednesday night competition this season against ABC's romantic reality show "The Bachelor."
Through Oct. 6, "West Wing" was ranked No. 13 in prime-time viewership overall and No. 5 among dramas, with an average audience of 17.7 million viewers. That's slightly higher than last season's average, but the show is down substantially from last year in ratings for adults 18 to 49.
"West Wing" also is having its ratings chipped away by the CBS reality show "Amazing Race" and two new dramas -- an update of "The Twilight Zone" on UPN and the WB's "Birds of Prey."
"This is one of the most crowded time periods on television," Matt Roush, senior television critic for TV Guide magazine, told Reuters, adding he thought "West Wing" also was suffering from a creative rut.
"I think last season was shaky creatively and I think this season is continuing that creative malaise," he said. "I'm not nearly as passionate about it as I was a year-and-a-half ago. The payoffs aren't as pleasurable as they used to be."
Nevertheless, the show still commands top dollar from advertisers; NBC frequently mentions, with pride, the show's heavy draw among people with high incomes.
Neither network officials, nor representatives of Warner Bros. Television, which produces the show, were immediately available for comment on the series' fortunes.
The ratings hiccup comes as NBC and Warner Bros. prepare to negotiate a new licensing agreement for the show. NBC reportedly pays producers as much as $2 million per episode.
The ensemble drama is also preparing for the departure of one of its co-stars, Rob Lowe, in March.
But TV Guide's Roush said that, even with a dip in the ratings, "West Wing" remains a top-tier program.
"It's not like it's in danger or anything, it's still a huge prestige item," he said. "It's still clearly, in Hollywood's mind, a totally blue-chip show."
Posted by MorganG at 03:41 PM
Wounded 'Wing' Won't Hurt NBC in Renewal Talks
By Josef Adalian and Michael Schneider
Variety
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Ratings for "The West Wing" have tumbled this fall -- but that's not all bad news for the folks at NBC or the show's producer, Warner Bros. TV.
For NBC, the weakening of an anchor show is hardly a cause for celebration, particularly given the so-so performance of its new comedies and the potential exit of "Friends" this May.
Yet the timing of "West Wing's" decline is actually perfect for NBC, since the network is just a few months away from starting talks with Warner Bros. over extending the Emmy-winning White House drama's license fee agreement.
With "Wing" less of a powerhouse -- the series is down a full 33% in adults 18-49 vs. the same period a year ago, and 16% compared with its 2001-02 average -- the studio might have less leverage to hold up NBC for an outrageous per-episode sum.
And better the series fade now as it begins its fourth season than after NBC locks in for a few more years (as happened to ABC after the network renewed "The Drew Carey Show" for three years.)
"Warner Bros. is not going to get as much money as they originally thought," said one high-level agent. "Whoever bids really has to decide how much future they think the show has."
At the same time, while Warner Bros. isn't happy about the Nielsen trend for "West Wing," parent AOL Time Warner has reason to smile.
Five out of the six series screening Wednesdays at 9 p.m. -- "West Wing," ABC's "The Bachelor," Fox's "Fastlane," WB's "Birds of Prey" and UPN's "Twilight Zone" -- are produced or co-produced by some division of the AOL Time Warner-owned studio.
"Looking at the 18-34 demographic, it certainly is the most competitive time period on TV," said CBS scheduling chief Kelly Kahl. "In terms of reaching younger viewers it's emerged as the No. 1 battleground."
And, while the season's still early, most of the shows are doing well despite the intense competition: "Bachelor" is a phenomenon; "Birds of Prey" got off to a strong start this week; "Fastlane" was promising in its bow; and "Wing," while bruised, is still a powerhouse. Even "Twilight Zone" upticked this week.
Indeed, the Big Six controlled 63% of the adults 18-49 audience from 9-10 p.m. this Wednesday, up from 58% a year ago in the same slot.
"When you get to a volume status like we've achieved, it's inevitable that you're going to compete against yourself," Warner Bros. TV Group exec VP Bruce Rosenblum said. "But what you hope is that the demographic appeal of all the shows is different enough (to allow most to succeed.) "
Industry insiders call AOL Time Warner's Wednesday 9 p.m. grudge match "the price you pay for success."
"If someone had to compete with you, it might as well be yourself," a rival executive said.
As for the looming "West Wing" renegotiation battle, many still believe NBC will open its wallet wide when the time comes.
"It's a conundrum that's almost analogous to the entire broadcast sector," a rival network chieftain said. "Just as advertisers continue to pay for lesser ratings, for NBC, a 13 share is still a 13 share -- which can very easily become a 7 share (if they don't keep 'West Wing')."
Executives note that advertisers still pay a premium to air their spots during "The West Wing." As NBC loves to tell ad buyers each May, no other show on TV snags a bigger share of viewers with annual incomes over $75,000.
Still, although "West Wing's" lower ratings would conceivably benefit NBC execs at the negotiating table, most rivals agree the network would still rather pull higher numbers rather than save some coin.
"When push comes to shove, I'm sure they'd rather be in the position of fretting over how costly the deal would be to pick up a 20 share show," the rival network boss said.
Posted by MorganG at 12:55 PM
October 10, 2002
Will NBC Reelect "West Wing"?
By Bridget Byrne
E! Online
First the bad news, then the good news.
NBC's The West Wing is in decline. Only 16 million watched this week's show compared to 20 million the same time last year.
However, the Peacock might be able to parlay that drop-off into a better deal when the license fee for the Warner Bros. TV production is renegotiated in a few months time.
Just like in politics, it looks like some insider was putting the spin on this possible agenda, as both the Hollywood trade paper Daily Variety and the Los Angeles Times carried stories Friday speculating on the potential negotiating strength of both parties. Also, just like in politics, there is also considerable tension between the two sides, because Warners has previously squeezed the Peacock for huge deals for the relicensing of both ER and Friends.
Despite winning the Best Drama Series Emmy again last month (the third consecutive trophy for the Oval Office series), The West Wing has lost steam in the 18-49 demo advertisers drool over. The show's down 33 percent from last season with only 6.8 million viewers in that category.
In the past two weeks, according to Nielsen, The West Wing's ratings have been the lowest since it debuted in 1999. (Perhaps viewers don't find the story line in which President Barlet seeks reelection that suspenseful, figuring it's a forgone conclusion he wins because of that hefty pay raise Martin Sheen just received. Or maybe they don't care as much as the media think about whether Rob Lowe stays or goes.)
Before this fourth season began, Industry analysts had theorized that a renegotiated deal would see a big jump from the nearly $2 million the network pays the production studio for each episode.
But now, some Hollywood insiders are figuring differently. "Warner Bros. is not going to get as much as they originally thought," one high-level agent tells Variety. "Whoever bids really has to decide how much future they think the show has."
Still, The West Wing is one of the tube's most prestigious shows, and NBC might be willing to pay big to keep it. The network also touts the show's appeal to another advertiser-favored demographic: high-end viewers with household incomes over $75,000 a year. And with Friends likely ending after this season, NBC needs proven winners in the lineup to maintain its ratings.
"The West Wing's qualitative and quantitative merit is still quite high, particularly among the upscale audience and light TV viewers," John Rash, senior vice president and director of broadcast negotiations at Campbell Mithun, a Minneapolis-based advertising agency, tells the Times.
Those are also reasons why CBS, greedy to conquer NBC, and ABC, just needy for anything which might restore prestige and ratings, are reportedly expressing interest in acquiring The West Wing if NBC doesn't meet Warners' asking price.
The show's Wednesday, 9 p.m. time slot is now considered about the most fiercely competitive in prime-time. Even ABC has been making some noise there with its reality dating show The Bachelor (also produced by Warner Bros. TV), which actually beat The West Wing in the 18-49 demo with 8.3 million adults among its 12.8 million viewers.
Another factor that might come into play at the bargaining table (but to whose benefit is not yet certain) is that five out the six series in the 9 p.m Wednesday period are produced by Warner Bros. TV. In addition to The West Wing and The Bachelor Warners cranks out the youth-oriented cop show Fastlane (which will return to Fox once baseball ends), the WB's glamorous supergirls series Birds of Prey (which attracted 7.6 million viewers, many of them young adults, when it debuted this week) and UPN's The Twilight Zone (which has seen improved ratings since its lackluster debut). CBS' The Amazing Race is the only broadcast show in that hour not linked to the AOL Time Warner-owned studio.
"When you get to a volume status like we've achieved, it's inevitable that you're going to compete against yourself," Warner Bros. TV Group exec VP Bruce Rosenblum tells Variety, expressing the hope "that the demographic appeal of all the shows is different enough" for most of them to succeed.
Neither Warners nor NBC would comment on The West Wing status, but expect this cliffhanger to come to a head later this season.
Posted by MorganG at 12:47 PM
October 08, 2002
Lily Tomlin enters 'The West Wing'
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- The mourning period was suitable. It's been more than a year since beloved White House secretary Dolores Landingham was laid to rest on "The West Wing."
Still, we would be ready to resent just about anyone who tried to replace Mrs. Landingham. As played by Kathryn Joosten, she was not only a moral bulwark for Martin Sheen's President Bartlet but a real pistol to boot.
Then Lily Tomlin walked in as Debbie Fiderer and the world was right again. Smart, gutsy and eccentric, Fiderer promises to keep Bartlet on his toes. And Tomlin, once again, reminds us what a treasure she is.
But don't try telling her that. The actress, acclaimed for her early "Laugh-In" comedy, dramatic turns in "Nashville" and other films and her ambitious one-woman plays, is a model of modesty.
She's also a charmingly haphazard storyteller and the possessor of one of the great celebrity smiles, an impish kid-who-ate-all-the-cookies grin that lights up her face and puts Julia Roberts to shame.
Over lunch at a Studio City restaurant down the street from her office, Tomlin admits she had daydreamed about a "West Wing" guest role, maybe as a tart-tongued pol modeled after former Texas Gov. Ann Richards.
"I liked the show immensely. I thought the writing was just terrific," she said of the NBC series (airing 9 p.m. EDT Wednesday) that received its third consecutive best drama Emmy Award last month.
Tomlin, 63, has approached other series she admired, gaining guest roles on "Homicide: Life on the Street" and a memorable "The X-Files" episode in which she and Ed Asner were paired as mischievous married ghosts.
"I thought it would be nice if I could suggest an idea to 'West Wing,' but then you let those things drift because you think, 'Well, I might get rejected. Maybe they don't even want me to be on the show.' "
'Lily would be great' The planets aligned for her casting when Tomlin was appearing in a New York revival of "The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe" and Thomas Schlamme, an executive producer of "The West Wing," was in the audience.
"A friend sat near Schlamme and heard him say, 'Lily would be great on the show,' " Tomlin recalled. "That really perked me up. Then I got on the case."
She didn't expect to follow Joosten -- "She's such a darling actress and funny" -- as top dog secretary but clearly relishes the role. She's scheduled to appear in 10 episodes this season.
"The language is very dense, filled with ideas and intelligence and observations and questions. And everybody's supposed to be extremely intelligent and fairly witty," she adds, with a small, self-mocking laugh.
She happily recites a choice bit of dialogue from the season's opening episode. "What I lack in memory I more than make up for in deductive reasoning," the president tells Fiderer during a rocky job interview.
Tomlin becomes the secretary for occasionally prickly Pres. Bartlet, played by Martin Sheen.
"Does that come with tights and a cape?" she replies, prompting an annoyed Bartlet to declare, "I think the meeting's over."
"Yes, but let's do this every once in a while," says the spunky Fiderer.
Colorful history
Make that spunky and mysterious. So far, we know that Fiderer was fired from a previous White House post because she stepped on bureaucratic toes helping Charlie (Dule Hill) get hired as the president's aide.
Fiderer's subsequent colorful job history of gambler and alpaca farmer have been sketched in, along with some evidence of political activism, but her personal life remains a cipher.
Tomlin is reluctant to reveal any unaired plot points, worried about offending "West Wing" creator Aaron Sorkin. She starts to relate the time she talked about notoriously secretive Woody Allen during production of his "Shadows and Fog" (1992), then stops.
"Don't let me digress because I can digress from here to the parking lot," she warns.
But that's part of the Tomlin charm, a stream-of-consciousness approach that echoes her theater work including "Intelligent Life," featuring Tomlin as more than a dozen different characters and written by longtime partner Jane Wagner. (Tomlin returns in the play next spring in Los Angeles.)
On stage, that translates to a flow of memorable lines including "I've always wanted to be somebody, but I see now I should have been more specific." In life, it means Tomlin jumps from describing the backstory she's created for Fiderer (she plans to post it on her Web site) to how she felt like a social nerd around "Tea with Mussolini" movie co-stars Maggie Smith and Cher to missed career opportunities.
For instance, she sorely wanted to appear on "The Lawrence Welk Show" in the guise of lounge singer Bobbi Jeanine and wrote to Britain's Prince Charles and Lady Diana in 1981 about another comic alter ego.
"I wanted to have Tommy Velour sing at their wedding," Tomlin said, smiling fondly at the thought of playing the cheesy guy with the pencil-thin mustache for royalty.
Mrs. Landingham would not have approved.
Mrs. Fiderer, however, just might.
Posted by MorganG at 02:57 PM
October 07, 2002
Sheen-tilated!
By Robert Kahn
Newsday
Don't call Ethel Kennedy at home on a Wednesday night - she'll be too wrapped up in "The West Wing" to answer the phone.
"It's an incredibly timely show," Kennedy said at the Regent Wall Street Hotel, where she attended a dinner honoring, among others, "Wing" president Martin Sheen.
"The characters are so lively," said Kennedy, wife of the late Robert Kennedy. "And Martin ... he's so easy on the eyes."
Kennedy, 74, says she's often surprised at how "West Wing" so closely mimics real-life Washington politics.
One recent episode - which saw three aides missing their ride to the airport during a campaign stop - hit very close to home.
"The same thing happened in Bobby's campaign in 1968," she said at the dinner, hosted by the Brennan Center for Justice at the NYU School of Law. "His press secretary was running behind the bus trying to catch up with it."
Kennedy was at the Regent to see Sheen honored for his real-life activism on behalf of poor and working families.
She also said Sheen - who played RFK in a 1974 TV movie - could consider running for office.
"A lot of people would probably vote for him," she said.
ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT. Because of his responsibilities to "The West Wing" - and the terms set forth in a plea agreement with the feds - Sheen, who has been arrested more than 70 times for civil disobedience, can no longer fight injustice quite the way he prefers.
"My hands are tied quite a bit," said Sheen, who is serving 3 years' probation for his role in a protest last year at California's Vandenberg Air Force Base. "If I get arrested for anything now, I go right in the slammer."
Sheen said he misses being free to get locked up.
"I do feel restrained now," said the actor, whose "West Wing" contract also forbids him to do anything that might result in lost time on the set. "... but I'll be off probation in another year- and-a-half."
Posted by MorganG at 12:45 PM
October 06, 2002
'West Wing' Wizard
By HEATHER SALERNO
THE JOURNAL NEWS >
2001 was a lousy year for Aaron Sorkin. "The West Wing" creator pleaded guilty to drug possession charges after he was busted at Burbank Airport last April for carrying cocaine, marijuana and hallucinogenic mushrooms in his carry-on bag. Less than three months later, four cast members threatened to boycott the NBC drama if they didn't get a major salary hike.
And after Sept. 11, Sorkin — whose show had already filmed that season's premiere and the next two episodes — struggled to find an appropriate way for C.J., Sam, Toby, Josh, Leo and, of course, President Bartlet, to acknowledge the tragedy without disrupting his carefully crafted parallel universe. Though Sorkin remains proud of the result, a stand-alone show about terrorism, it was vilified by critics.
With all that baggage, it's no wonder Sorkin was shocked that "The West Wing" snagged its third consecutive Best Drama award at last month's Emmys.
"I'm as surprised as you are," he told the crowd, capping a sweep that included wins for Allison Janney, John Spencer and Stockard Channing.
But is the 41-year-old now crowing about his unexpected triumph, a sign that he's got his groove back after what he calls "the fiasco of last year"?
Well, here's how Sorkin describes that award-winning season: "It was an off-year for 'The West Wing' . . . It was very difficult to do the show (after Sept. 11). It's possible that there was a way to do the show well, but I didn't find it."
Clearly, saying Sorkin's hard on himself is like saying his characters like to talk fast.
He's tried to shed the aftertaste of last year's bad news, moving on with the series' next chapter. "I came back this year, and it felt good writing the show. It felt natural."
The pressure of having a hit show rest primarily on Sorkin's slim shoulders is relentless. Yet at least some of that pressure seems self-inflicted.
"Listen, writing in general is difficult for me," says Sorkin as he lights a Merit cigarette. "I've written the first 72 episodes of 'The West Wing' and the 73rd will be the first one I didn't write."
That decision was clearly a struggle for Sorkin, though he's been accused by several of the show's former writers of claiming sole credit for their work. On this day, he does praise "West Wing" scribes Kevin Falls and Eli Attie, who are penning that "73rd episode" called "Swiss Diplomacy."
Another first is that Sorkin has asked friend and playwright Jon Robin Baitz to be a guest writer for a mid-season episode. Essentially, Sorkin says, Baitz will "take one of our characters, and put them in a play. He's taking C.J. and sending her back to a reunion."
Sorkin pauses to puff on his cigarette, and he taps his fingers impatiently on a table in his 41st-floor suite at the Four Seasons. He bunked at the posh hotel earlier this week while in town for a literary festival, but the weekend getaway wasn't pure pleasure.
While he's in New York, the cast and crew are in California shooting Season 4's fifth episode. And they're waiting for Sorkin to finish the next installation.
"I have eight and a half days to write a script. I have not yet written one in eight and a half days. I write them in 9, 10, 11, 12 days," he admits. "It's not at all uncommon for the cast to begin shooting a script before I finish writing it."
Sorkin's not being arrogant. In fact, he's overly apologetic about what he knows is a professional flaw. But, he says anxiously, "I don't know how else to do it. I know other people get together at the beginning of the year, and they come up with a season-long story arc. I envy that."
Right now, the show is focused on Bartlet's November re-election. "Beyond that, I'm not being coy when I say I don't know what's going to happen."
His workload is evident on the hotel room's floor, where carefully-aligned pages are organized by scene, and each one is precisely marked with titles like "NH Polling Scene" and "Will/Sam."
The infamous "West Wing" banter mirrors Sorkin's own rapid-fire speech pattern, although the Scarsdale High School and Syracuse University graduate is infused with much more nervous energy.
Leaning back so his shaggy, gray-streaked brown hair touches his white shirt
collar, Sorkin asks permission to take a sip of water before answering several questions. He gives smart replies about everything from Rob Lowe's impending departure to his own Broadway obsession. (A childhood favorite is "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?" He can — with an almost frightening precision — rattle off the original cast from the 1962 production, which opened when he was 16 months old.)
That kind of knowledge is expected, given the show's highbrow reputation. Sorkin's teleplays are loaded with erudite dialogue and articulate plotlines; his characters spout Latin phrases, attend five-hour Shakespearean productions and quote Graham Greene.
What's unexpected is Sorkin's confessed "guilty pleasure" of watching "E! True Hollywood Stories."
"It's true, I can't take my eyes off it," he chuckles. "They're train wrecks."
Sorkin, an odd mix of reserve and candor, is full of contradictions like that.
He's at ease with topics like censorship in television, arguing that broadcast networks — which are competing with cable fare like "The Sopranos," "Sex & the City" and "The Shield" — need to break out of their "1950s" mentality regarding the use of adult situations and prohibited language. "The only way I've been able to get away with stuff on 'West Wing' is if Marlee Matlin signs it," he laughs.
Yet he's surprisingly prickly when it's innocently mentioned that his writing, from "The West Wing" and "Sports Night" to "The American President," has been described as idealistic.
"A lot of what I've written, I've found, tends to get painted with its own lowest common denominator," says Sorkin, who was 28 when his career took off with the Broadway play, "A Few Good Men," and the subsequent Tom Cruise-Jack Nicholson movie.
"They say 'The West Wing' is a flag-waving, lump-in-your-throat thing. And it's that plenty of times. But it's a lot of other stuff, too, that isn't as loud."
Sorkin is interrupted by the arrival of his parents, Claire and Bernard. The couple has come from Scarsdale to visit their son and his 22-month-old daughter, Roxy, who is napping in a room one floor away, watched over by Sorkin's estranged wife, Julia Bingham. (The couple separated not long after his drug arrest last year. "They're still good friends," Sorkin's publicist says later.)
After handing his mother a newspaper to read, Sorkin smoothly segues into a frank conversation about Rob Lowe, who plays deputy communications director Sam Seaborn.
Lowe, originally envisioned as the show's star, will exit the series in March if Warner Bros. TV doesn't give him a hefty pay raise from his current salary of about $75,000 per episode.
The dispute stems, Sorkin says, from the salary bump that Janney, Spencer, Bradley Whitford and Richard Schiff got from about $30,000 per episode after hinting that they might not show up for work at the beginning of last season.
But unlike Lowe, those four actors — who, Sorkin points out, all went on to win individual acting Emmys — agreed to lower salaries when hired in 1999. The producers promised to make up the difference if the show was successful, explains Sorkin.
"The issue is a simple one: At the moment, Rob is paid as much money as his costars. Rob wants to be paid more money than his costars. Warner Brothers is unwilling to do that to the rest of the cast, and I'm unwilling to do that to the rest of the cast," he says.
The refusal also has to do with the program's staggering production cost: According to Sorkin, "The West Wing" spends at least $2.5 million on each show, but NBC only pays a licensing fee of $1.5 million. As the show's highest-paid actor, Martin Sheen's reported salary of $300,000 per episode comprises a significant portion of the budget. (Sorkin says Sheen was able to negotiate that deal because he'd initially signed a three-year contract as a guest actor, and his character quickly evolved into the series' lead.)
As for Lowe, Sorkin's "fingers are crossed that he'll stay, but crossing fingers is all that can be done at this point."
And how about Sorkin? Will he remain as the show's backbone through what is expected to be a lengthy run? Hasn't he already started to step back by semi-surrendering control to other writers?
"Easy there with the step back! They are two scripts out of 75!" he shouts. "I really don't want to read that I've taken a step back and handed 'The West Wing' over to somebody else. Two out of 75 episodes!"
He shakes his head and gestures to the script in progress. "Taking a step back, good Lord! Do you see this on the floor?"
Seriously, though? "I won't be with 'The West Wing' for as long as it plays out, but I have no intention of leaving right now."
Sorkin seems to take his career day by day, much like his sobriety.
Following his recent arrest, he told reporters that his drug use isn't anything like the cocaine habit he had in 1995, when he entered a rehab program at the Hazelden Institute in Minnesota. He's been chastened by the humiliation that he suffered through last year, and he's now reluctant to offer too much about his personal life.
"After the embarrassment to my parents, and the embarrassment to the rest of my family, and the embarrassment to the people I work with and work for. To go through the criminal justice system in a public way, after that, the loss was just . . ."
He trails off for a moment, and refocuses instead on the effect the arrest has had on his work.
"I don't think a writer is doing himself any favors by letting people know a lot about him on a personal level. I don't want to get between the audience and what it is that I'm writing. I felt, last year, any time I wrote anything about decriminalizing marijuana, for instance, that the audience would, say, 'Welllll.'"
Then Sorkin asks for the time, and it's clear that this conversation has come to an end.
But he can't resist adding one more point, comparing his own dilemma to that of an American playwright who's always denied that one of his dramas was based on his relationship with a troubled silver screen legend.
"I think 'After the Fall' is a great, great play," he says, "if you never knew Arthur Miller was married to Marilyn Monroe."
Posted by MorganG at 12:33 PM
October 04, 2002
Fund-Raiser Takes Flight With 'West Wing's' Help
By GINA PICCALO and LOUISE ROUG
LA Times
Inside producer Lawrence Bender's spacious living room, beyond the candles surrounding the guest list and the stash of gift bags, a crowd of young, energetic liberals mingled with Hollywood types. The Wednesday night gathering was part fund-raiser, part viewing party for the second episode of the Emmy-winning "The West Wing," which aired on NBC at 9 p.m. Bender invited people to pay a minimum of $250 to watch it at his house. The casual affair in Bel-Air raised an estimated $100,000 for the nonprofit Rock the Vote, which works to build political awareness among young people and registers them to vote.
"The last time I was here, it was the [2000] Democratic convention," noted Los Angeles City Council candidate Rob Vinson. "It was like 'The West Wing' meets the West Wing. Half the Clinton administration was here."
On this night, the crowd was peppered with actors, including "The West Wing's" Janel Moloney and Anna Deavere Smith, "Rock the Vote" staff, as well as the group's founders and supporters. Before the show, the crew from "Extra!" interviewed guests from a brightly lighted spot on the lawn. Most guests crowded onto the back porch near the bar, where bartenders doled out the POTUS (for President of the United States), a drink with Dewar's White Label Scotch whiskey and ginger ale.
The evening also celebrated the nonprofit's inclusion in that night's episode. In it, members of the cast, most prominently Allison Janney, were featured at a fictitious Rock the Vote concert at the House of Blues. The episode, which reached an estimated 20 million people, was a coup for the organization that operates nationally with a 10-member staff. "It's a call to arms for the last 34 days of the election," said Rock the Vote Executive Director Jehmu Greene of the party and the episode.
But for "West Wing" creator and executive producer Aaron Sorkin, watching about 150 people react to the show was near torture. During the hourlong episode, he stood in the back of the room with his head down, hand to his brow. At every commercial break, he rushed outside to smoke a cigarette.
When asked about watching people watch the show, he didn't hesitate. "It's like being naked," he said, lighting another cigarette. "It's like that dream you have when you find yourself in front of a bunch of people--totally naked. It's like that every time."
Posted by MorganG at 12:30 PM
October 02, 2002
Aaron Sorkin on The Charlie Rose Show
Charlie Rose: Aaron Sorkin is here. He is the creator and executive producer of the hit NBC series "The West Wing." Last week the show continued its reign as the best dramatic series on network television. It won the Emmy for best drama for the third year in a row. On Wednesday, 18 million viewers tuned in to watch the two-hour season premiere. I am pleased to have Aaron Sorkin back at this table. Welcome.
Aaron Sorkin: Thank you. Nice to be here.
CR: It's nice to have you for a one-on-one because the last time you were here…
AS: Yeah, it was a big crowd. It was most of the cast.
CR: It was a big crowd. Most of the cast, right. So here's what somebody said: "The best thing about the new season: it is no longer last season."
AS: Yeah, I said that. Yeah. Among the lesser casualties of 9/11 was that, you know, a few weeks after 9/11 I think that we wanted a diversion, we wanted to laugh. I think that a series like "Friends" couldn't have had its best season at a better time. But what we weren't ready for were fictional heroes. Our hearts were completely with the real ones and particularly a fictional president of the United States when the real president of the Untied States was embodying everything that we were feeling--the anger--
CR: American anger, American will, American--
AS: Exactly right. And from week to week, you felt like you were writing the show handcuffed a little bit. I didn't know how to write it anymore. It was a constant search for what I wasn't doing that used to make the show work. And I'm very proud of everybody that I work with; we stuck together and we saw it through and came back to work after the hiatus and didn't feel any of that, just felt the normal week-to-week pressure of trying to write well. And we're having a terrific time now.
CR: It's important. I mean, I find admirable is you acknowledge this. I mean, you're saying, "Look, we had a bad year last year. We didn't have a bad year in terms of all the normal--But in our hearts we didn't think we got into the rhythm that we normally have."
AS: That's absolutely right. Yeah. And, you know, you've got to be a diagnostician a little bit. You've got to be able to say it's not working now and why. And during those times when it's--So maybe there was a way to make it work. There probably was. I wasn't able to find it in twenty-two episodes.
CR: Now a couple of things we have to ask about. One is Rob Lowe. Is he coming back? Is he not coming back? Are you going to pay him enough money, or is NBC going to pay him enough money?
AS: Well, I hope he stays. Everybody hopes he stays. And all he has to do to stay is stay. It's easy. He just has to not leave. Very simply the way it works is there's Martin Sheen, who has a particular pay scale cause he had a shorter contract than everybody else. His contract was… expired, and he negotiated a new one.
CR: By that time, it was a hit series.
AS: Yeah, that's right. Dule Hill and Janel Moloney, who are the two newest members of the cast, who are on the lower end of the pay scale. In the middle are five actors--Richard Schiff, John Spencer, Brad Whitford, Alison Janney, and Rob. And at the moment, they're all five being paid the same. Rob would like to be paid more, and Warner Brothers doesn't want to do that to the other four actors. I don't want to do it to the other four actors. And that's where we are. But there's no villain in this situation.
CR: And nobody, certainly, within the family of West Wing are angry at each other.
AS: Oh, absolutely not. We are laughing every bit as much as we used to. No one more than Rob, by the way. He--and I love him for this--he comes to work every day absolutely ready to play, terrific sense of humor, energizing everyone else on.
CR: Was his character assumed to be, at the beginning, when it was in your mind, when you first began to create this series, the star?
AS: No. There was no star. I'm not crazy about stars. I like kind of writing for a band--a group of people--
CR: With multiple story lines.
AS: Yeah, that's right. As a matter of fact, Brad Whitford, who plays Josh, was offered his choice of Josh or Sam and chose Josh. And I'm saying this simply to illustrate that these were all equal roles.
CR: He would have chosen Sam if Sam were the big star. Was a bigger role.
AS: So the answer is no. We were thrilled when Rob came in and read cause his audition was just wonderful, and the thing that was working against him in the casting process was the fact that he was a recognizable name, and we were concerned that somehow would draw away from the ensemble feeling--that there'd be a perception that this is a show about Rob. But we, you know, we swallowed that fear because he read so great for it and cast him.
CR: It has also been written that Josh is your voice.
AS: I'm not sure that any of them are my voice. Either none of them are or they all are. But certainly nothing in between.
CR: You write every episode.
AS: Yeah, every episode except--We've done 72 now. What will be the seventh episode this season, I didn't write. It was written by two guys on our staff, Kevin Falls and Eli Ati. And then episode number twelve this season is going to be written by the playwright John Robin Bates. Robbie Bates.
CR: Oh, he's great. So what--he came to you, you went to him?
AS: I went to him, and I said--and it really--it was one of those things. As you said in your opening, the season premiere was two hours. And NBC said, "Great. We'll do a two-hour premiere, but you still have to deliver twenty-two Wednesdays of original West Wings." And the only way that that could be accomplished is if I benched myself for one. And I thought, well, instead of trying to anticipate--you know, talk to a writer and anticipate where we're going to be at episode twelve--why not go to a playwright and say, "Take one of our characters out of the show and put them in a play. Take Alison Janney's character, and send her home to her twentieth college reunion, something like that." And I went to Robbie right away and said, "Would you do this?" And he said yes. We're thrilled.
CR: Okay, roll tape. Here's from the current season where Toby and Josh and Donna miss the presidential motorcade back to Washington. Roll tape. Some of you may have seen this. Here it is.
CR: How many have you written so far?
AS: This year?
CR: Yeah.
AS: I've written--I'm writing the sixth. We've shot five.
CR: And you've only premiered one, that two-hour spectacular?
AS: That's right. That's right. So the train's beginning to catch up.
CR: Can you argue to your motion picture brethren that there's every bit as good a writing on television today in the best dramas than there is in film?
AS: I would take myself out of the equation, because I'm biased, and tell you that my motion picture brethren by and large would have no argument with that statement. That certainly recently, while the quality of television has really gone up, something's happened to movies. We can all list the exceptions. There have been terrific films this year and last year and the year before. But the more studios depend on the opening weekend being everything, the less it becomes important to have a good movie; what you need is a good ad campaign. And that's what I think, what we're seeing more of these days.
CR: So are you going to make a movie?
AS: I hope so. I'd like to. I love movies, and I love plays. And it turns out I love television.
CR: You started out as a playwright.
AS: Yeah, I still am.
CR: There was something even before "A Few Good Men."
AS: I had this one act in a basement here in town that got a lot of attention. And then "A Few Good Men" and another play. But it was "A Few Good Men" that took me to Hollywood to do the screenplay adaptation, and I was just going to stay there for ten minutes while I did the screenplay adaptation, but I stayed there for that and another movie and another movie after that. And then two TV series--there was one before this called "Sports Night."
CR: Good writing again.
AS: Thanks very much. I love movies because they're big and they're American, and they're two hours and twenty minutes long--
CR: "The American President" was a big movie.
AS: Right. There are no commercials, and you have the entire language available to you, which is what's nice about them. What's nice about television is that you have a continuing relationship with the thing that you write. You know, with a movie, you're done writing the screenplay and you kind of--you're not really necessary on the set, but you hang out there anyway cause you can't tear yourself away, so you eat a lot of donuts at craft service and then it's another three months in post-production. You enjoy the milk and cookies during premiere week and, you know, then it's done. And with this--What this is is summer stock with a lot of money.
CR: New York Times Magazine wrote a piece about you.
AS: Yeah.
CR: What did you think of the piece?
AS: Well, I don't know. I'll tell you, at the time what I remember--
CR: Peter De Jong was his name.
AS: Peter De Young, I think, you pronounce it. And I thought there were some strange observations in there.
CR: Okay, well, I want to get at one of those at least. Okay, it is this notion that you wrote "A Few Good Men;" you are not a 50-year-old ex-Marine. People see you write about things and it's almost things that you're not that interested in, but you can infuse them with a powerful sense of reality and powerful writing that makes the lines, you know, stand up and shout.
AS: Yeah.
CR: Now, what's that about? I mean, that was one point that seemed to me to have some reality. Does it or not?
AS: It does. There's a bit of a Chauncey Gardner thing going on with me, I think, and it's--When I was ramping up to my thirteenth birthday--believe me, I'm not going to drag you through my entire life here--I have no religious training at all; I'm Jewish but never went to Hebrew school. But in the seventh grade, nearly every Saturday I was going to a friend's bar mitzvah. And I was just beginning to develop kind of my love of theatre. And this was great theatre. These people were up there, and there was a robe, and they were singing and speaking, and there was an audience, and they were getting--you get a pat on the back. So it's about six weeks before my birthday where there was just going to be, you know, the boys in my family had big parties on their thirteenth birthday. And I opened up a local phone book and called a local rabbi and said, "Rabbi, I'm going to be thirteen in six weeks, so I want you to teach me the Torah." He said, "It's going to take me a lot more than six weeks." And I said, "No, no, no. You don't understand, If you just say it into a tape recorder, I've got a very good ear, and I can learn it phonetically." And he pointed out that's hardly the reason for doing it.
CR: Good for him.
AS: And I'm mentioning this because I grew up surrounded by people a lot smarter than I am. Whether it was--
CR: Are you sure?
AS: I'm certain. Whether it was at my dinner table or at a poker game--my friends.
CR: You were the least smart person in the room?
AS: By far. I was the person terribly interested in doing the drama club productions. These were all the people headed for Harvard and Yale and Princeton. And have since graduated from there and have gone on to do extraordinary things.
CR: They've gone on to work for you is where it's going.
AS: And I, just like with learning the Torah phonetically, I began to just learn the sound of intelligence, what that sounded like.
CR: This is great.
AS: And that's how I would write. This is happening that I'm developing--
CR: So you actually learned the courtroom drama from the idea of how--?
AS: Well, with the courtroom drama with "A Few Good Men," I had a small window in. My sister at the time was a lawyer with the Navy Judge Advocate General's court. So I'd ask her to give me things, to give me pamphlets--nothing confidential at all. To give me any pieces of paper that had the jargon of this place on it. And I would really start to fall in love with phrases and the sound of things, and I'd want to put this into the scene. I also loved, from a very young age--my parents took me to the theatre all the time when I was a little kid. And they took me--They didn't take me to little kid plays; they took me to plays I had no business being at, like "Championship Season" when I was eleven years old, "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" when I was twelve. And I didn't--
CR: Those are pretty good plays.
AS: Those are great plays.
CR: A couple of Pulitzer Prizes, I think.
AS: Yes, but an eleven-year-old doesn't know what "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf" is about. But what I loved was the sound of dialogue; it was like symphony music to me. It was just terrific. And I wanted to make that. And so I phonetically create the sound on "The West Wing" of people who are much more politically sophisticated than I am. I look for a point of friction. You've got to have--for drama, two people have to disagree on something--and I---
CR: But do you know politics?
AS: No. No, I don't know politics at all.
CR: Do you watch poliltics? I mean, have you ever seen C-SPAN?
AS: Oh, sure, sure. And I watch--there are shows that I think are terrific, like "Crossfire" and "The Capital Gang" and all those shows because they're--
CR: Bill O'Reilly.
AS: Yeah. They're drama. People are disagreeing, and it's interesting to me. And when people are talking about something, it isn't so much their position that I'm trying to imitate as the way they're presenting it. I'm just trying to phonetically recreate the sound of political sophistication and knowing what you're talking about. And oftentimes in things that I've written, whether it's "A Few Good Men" or I wrote a movie called "Malice" or "The American President" or "Sports Night" or "The West Wing," there'll be a quick passage that will go by and somebody--the studio or the producer--someone will say, "Gee, no one's going to know what these two people are talking about." I'll say, "It's not actually important that they do. What's important is that the audience say, 'Wow! These guys really know what they're talking about. That's interesting.'" And that's what I try to do.
CR: So here's what you said in this piece: "The things I write about are pretty much disconnected from the things I think about." Which is what you're saying. You don't have to think about them to write about them. You have a sense of drama more than a sense of content. Or not?
AS: I think what Peter was getting at was this, and I think that I was getting at it too there, this piece--
CR: Peter wrote this because of conversations with you.
AS: Of course he wrote it because of conversations with me. He also wrote it--it came quickly on the heels of a fairly public arrest. A year ago April, I was arrested at Burbank Airport for drug possession.
CR: Crack cocaine.
AS: Yeah, there were bad drugs.
CR: Marijuana.
AS: And mushrooms. And I think what Peter was getting at was that it doesn't seem like the guy who wrote "The American President" or "West Wing" or even "A Few Good Men" has this in his world and why would he be--
CR: That's right. Cause it's an idealized, positive, fictionalized sense--as you say, you create fictitious heroes.
AS: Yeah. I like to write very romantically, very idealistically.
CR: And here's a guy who's going through--who's stupid enough to try to go through an airport security system.
AS: Well, forget about just the stupidity of trying to go through an airport system. Who's using the drug in the first place. And what Peter was saying was "Gee, why not write about that? It seems to me there's something going on more dramatic than 'I love America.'
CR: And?
AS: And I don't know what the answer to it is.
CR: Come on.
AS: I honestly don't. I'm not being coy. I think about it all the time.
CR: And what conclusions do you reach?
AS: The conclusion that I reach is I love writing this. This, for me, is like sitting down at a piano and doing something healthy, frankly, and playing nicely and practicing.
CR: Are you through with drugs or not? Because you literally seemed to say drugs helped you. Are you through or not?
AS: I am. I mean, I haven't taken any drugs since my arrest last April.
CR: And how hard is that for you?
AS: There are times it's harder than others. And, you know, there have been times you get to the precipice. I'll tell you what's made it a lot easier since April--I've had what's called institutional sobriety. I'm in the criminal justice system now, which means I'm drug tested once in a while. The consequences of failing a drug test--
CR: About how often? Is it random or--
AS: It's random, and it's often.
CR: It's random and often.
AS: And often. And the consequences of failing a drug test are dire.
CR: You go to prison. Go to prison.
AS: Yeah.
CR: Because there a lot of young--certainly young minority kids in this city for possession of crack cocaine who are in jail, and you know that.
AS: Yeah.
CR: And they have put that weight on top of you to say if you don't behave--
AS: That's right. It's worth mentioning, by the way, since I talked about minorities, that the--truly, I'm not complaining on my behave, I'm white--but the mandatory sentencing for crack cocaine is considerably more severe than the mandatory sentencing for powder cocaine. The reason being that, I think, 70% of all drug users are white; about 80% of all crack users are black.
CR: That's why I made that point. That's exactly--And you're saying--What's your point though?
AS: I was doing a parenthetical to say that that's racially ridiculous that that's the case. I think the point that you were making is that is it--Were you asking me because I have a TV show, did I get a lighter deal than--
CR: And you've got a lot of money and can hire the best lawyers and all that.
AS: Well, there's no question that I was able to hire terrific lawyers, but which--what I was sentenced to was called diversion. Which means you're on probation for two years and you have to put in a certain number of hours every week with a drug counselor in a group setting. It was not in my group executive producers of television shows. It was me and a plumber's assistant and a stripper and a gardener, all of whom received the same sentence that I did. And all of whom paid a lot less money for their legal counsel.
CR: You're a hell of a writer. I mean, I've just got to believe that out of all these experiences, there's something in you and it's fair to say, "Look, maybe I'll get to it. I hope I will." And writing is not easy. I've never met the person who said to me, "Writing is easy, Charlie." Especially at the level that you do it. So, you know, I hope you'll do that. Let me just come to--You got into some trouble about some stuff you seemed to be saying about Bush. Now what was that about?
AS: Silly is what it was.
CR: On your part? Or with the people who came up with criticizing--
AS: I think with the people who kind of made a magilla out of it. I was interviewed by David Remick.
CR: New Yorker magazine.
AS: Exactly right. In front of a small group of people. There was a Q&A, and right before the Q&A started, we were just chatting about something. And I remarked that I thought it was terrific that this was--I can't remember when it was; it was in early spring, I think, of last year. So it was maybe five, six months after 9/11. And I remarked that I thought it was terrific that people were laying off the knucklehead jokes a little bit with Bush, that we just weren't doing that and that was appropriate. Because we were just in this place in 9/11; that it just wasn't right to be talking this way about our president. But then I was concerned that legitimate news outlets--that the New York Times and others, and many, many others--were seeing something I wasn't seeing. They were talking about how he had been transformed on 9/11, that he rose to the occasion, he was a new man, and I wasn't seeing that. And I thought we were being snookered somehow.
CR: By the media?
AS: By the media. This was not--had nothing to do with President Bush. And David say, "Great. Let's talk about that when we're up there." And we did, and that interview was sort of allowed to be a part of that--
CR: It was on the record.
AS: A "Talk of the Town" piece. Frankly, the biggest trouble that I got in was that one of the examples that I cited was NBC News and Tom Brokaw had done a day in the life of the real West Wing, which began with Tom Brokaw telling us, "Now the president's schedule has been kind of pumped up for this event.
CR: So he acknowledged that that was true.
AS: And I simply acknowledged his acknowledgment.
CR: Oh, I thought what you said was "Look what they do. They pumped up it up" without giving credit to NBC for saying it beforehand.
AS: No, I frankly can't remember what the quote is. I may not have given credit to NBC for having said it. What I said was his schedule was pumped up for the benefit of NBC. NBC and Tom Brokaw allowed that, and I obviously have all the respect in the world for Tom Brokaw and NBC News. Even if I didn't, which I do, I wouldn't say that I didn't because I work for NBC too.
CR: I hope you called up Tom and apologized.
AS: I did call up Tom and apologized. He was a great sport about it. Called up Jeff Zucker and apologized.
CR: Jack Welch.
AS: Who else is on my list here? The Matt Drudgeing of the whole thing.
CR: Yeah, Matt heard it and just blasted it, didn't he?
AS: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
CR: Peggy Noonan, who--
AS: Oh, my god, Matt had me like in the Taliban, you know.
CR: There you go. That'll teach you not to go out there, running your mouth off about something you know nothing about.
AS: No, no. You know what? Now I'm just talking about penmanship and stuff on these panels.
CR: Here's the thing about you. You have these penpal relationships, these email relationships, with a whole bunch of very smart and sophisticated people in Washington. Maureen Dowd is one of those.
AS: Yeah, after three and a half years, you collect number of people--not nearly enough--but a dozen or so people who help you out an anecdote or a story, sent you in the right direction--
CR: Oh, these are sources, are they?
AS: Yeah, sent you in the right direction on China or Africa and they're all terrific people, and what they all have in common is they're all very funny. And so you really enjoy sending emails back and forth. The problem is you find it's 2 in the afternoon, and all I've done is, you know, is emailed with Johnny Apple.
CR: There's a good one. So you've got all these people; do they suggest you story lines as well?
AS: First of all, what's nice is that they all seem to enjoy the show. So they'll enthusiastically suggest a story about themselves.
CR: Now why do you think that is? Because it is a glorification of--
AS: Well, of public service and government work and oftentimes, by the way, reporters.
CR: Less so in terms of the mouth of the creator. I mean, you've jumped all over cable television too. You've said--
AS: No.
CR: No? You didn't say anything about cable television and the fact that what was going on on television didn't meet your approval?
AS: No. Are we talking about the reality shows?
CR: yeah.
AS: First of all, it's not important that most things meet my approval. It really isn't.
CR: I wasn't suggesting it was but--
AS: I sat on--this past weekend was the New Yorker Festival.
CR: Again. The same one you got in trouble with last time. Did they do another interview? Was Matt Drudge there?
AS: This time I sat on a panel called "What You Can't Say on TV: Censorship in Television." And we'd gotten to the end of the panel, and I had just mentioned that there hadn't really had time to talk about the biggest problem, which is not censorship by the networks or the FCC, broadcast standards and practices; it's self-censorship. That I feel that so many of the shows like "Celebrity Boxing" and these reality shows where people are getting paid fundamentally to humiliate themselves was so much worse than bad language and nudity in terms of a corrosive effect on society.
CR: I could not agree more with you.
AS: I'm glad to hear you say so. But, you know, I love everybody, and I'm really not a troublemaker. I'm just sitting in my room and I'm doing my thing--
CR: The problem is we can't let you out in public. We can't let you travel, and we can't let you out in public.
AS: That really is the problem. I can't go to airports anymore. It really is the thing. And I'm fine if I'm living in a fictional world that I've created. But once I have to put my socks on--
CR: Do you think of yourself as making a movie?
AS: We do. Every week. We're making a 41-minute movie every week for about $2 1/2 million.
CR: What else are you going to do? You may make a movie, and you just told me--
AS: I'm eager to get back to the popcorn and the movies, but when I say eager, I'm not at all eager to leave "The West Wing." I love it, and it's my home.
CR: But if you leave and you're doing so much, what happens to this baby?
AS: Oh, what happens is that a real writer comes in and starts writing it, and you can see what the show really can be.
CR: And we'll give credit to him, won't we?
AS: That's right. Very good.
CR: And we'll make sure we give credit to him when we win awards, won't we?
AS: Yes, we will. I've accepted a commission from the Abbey Theatre in Dublin for the 2004-2205 season.
CR: This is great.
AS: Yeah, it's going to be real exciting.
CR: When will you get started on this?
AS: I should start pretty soon. 2004-2005 season's two years from now, three years from now, I guess.
CR: Things are going well?
AS: It's terrific, thanks.
CR: Great to have you here.
AS: Thanks for having me here, thanks
CR: Aaron Sorkin of The West Wing, executive producer, creator, writer. When are you on?
AS: Wednesday nights at 9 o'clock, NBC.
CR: NBC. If he's not there, go to CBS--9 o'clock on NBC. The Emmy award-winning West Wing. Thank you for joining us.
Posted by MorganG at 10:09 PM
'West Wing' Gets Ready to Rock
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LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - The band Barenaked Ladies and singer Aimee Mann will be performing on "The West Wing" in order to promote Rock the Vote.
In the episode entitled "College Kids," press secretary C.J. Cregg (Allison Janney) will speak to a crowd of young people at House of Blues about the importance of youth empowerment and civic and political engagement during a fundraiser for the non-profit organization.
"Rock the Vote was a great partner and we hope this is just the beginning of any number of things we can do together," says Aaron Sorkin, the show's creator and executive producer.
"Our mission to connect with youth and engage them in the political process will surely be helped by such prominent placement in America's hottest and smartest political drama," says Jehmu Greene, executive director of Rock the Vote. "We are honored to have the opportunity to work with a group of professionals who are as passionate about politics as they are about putting out quality programming that educates while it entertains."
To celebrate the episode, Rock the Vote will host a special screening party and fundraiser at the home of producer Lawrence Bender ("The Mexican," "Knockaround Guys" ). Cast members from "The West Wing" and other celebrity guests will be on-hand to raise an estimated $100,000 to help Rock the Vote continue their voter registration efforts for the 2002 election.
"The West Wing" episode "College Kids" will air on Wednesday, Oct. 2 at 9 p.m. ET on NBC.
Posted by MorganG at 10:03 PM